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kade


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 02:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If a Beholder has the power to move objects, wound things, put them to sleep, et cetera, shouldn't they be able to pull a fish out of water?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 09:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

kade wrote:
If a Beholder has the power to move objects, wound things, put them to sleep, et cetera, shouldn't they be able to pull a fish out of water?


hmm, good idea, they can hunt with their eyes, so why not fishing too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 20:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

tilamond wrote:

hmm, good idea, they can hunt with their eyes, so why not fishing too Very Happy


Hmm let me think...
Well i look in a river or a pond and what do I see, well isnt that strange, its a reflecion of me!! I wonder if i fire my disinigrating beam at this reflection, who will get hurt? Maybe the fish below? Or maybe ill make water boil? Hmmm... Fish soup, yummy...

Or maybe the water will reflect my beam from my eye and ill end up hurting myself. And using telekinesis is also tricky, because it kinda hard to catch a fish with hands (even with quite nimble hands) and youd need a lot of dextirity with that eye too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 21:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I was under the impression that telekinesis meant you didn't have to physically touch anything, and that the word actually meant 'distance movement' roughly. Of course, if my eye needs to be 'nimble' or 'dexterous', then perhaps it isn't really a TK eye at all. Also, there wouldn't be any point in harming the fish when it is in the water, only in getting it out of the water. Even with slight waves there wouldn't be a direct reflection, and besides, I hardly doubt light bouncing off the surface of calm water has any bearing on whether mental powers would reflect back at you. Any comments, Artic?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 01:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

One theory on telekinesis is that when using it, one is actually communicating with the objects it is moving, "asking" them to move, and persuading them to do so. In this case, inanimate objects would be much easier to move then living, breathing, cute little fishies.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 07:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok, so the rays from your eye migh not reflect back at you with teleknetics, but wouldnt it be way too easy to use the eye to just lift a cubic of water out of the river, with the fish still swimmig inside it? When you hunt you use your disinegrating eye- it burns to dust whatever it hits. When you fish that ray of disinegration would hit water before it would hit the fish, so it would prolly boil water, and the fish would just swim away. And even if you hit the fish and hurt it, wont it swim away, or if it dies, wont the current carry it away?

And once the evileyes start fishing with their mental power, I would like to fish with some bomb-vials Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 00:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Several thoughts on this:

Telelinesis isn't an absolute. Similar to vision, some people see better than others, and just because something IS there, doesn't necessarily mean that you see it.

There would also then have to be some degree of skill involved. Picking up a shotgun, and shooting it at close range you'll hit most anything. Pickup a rifle, and try and hit something at a thousand yards, with small margin of error.

Unless you were GOOD with your telekinesis, you'd most likely pull out a puddle of water, wich may, or may not contain a fish. You may or may not get the fish to "land", and you'd be just as likely to end up all wet, as catch a fish. A similar thing would be that it would be easier and take less control to rip off someones shirt, rather than just undo a button.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 08:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok spearfishing! Whats the race that can combine their hands into a single claw? Well they would like to fish with that claw like spear-fishing.

Dont get me wrong, I have nothing against evileyes fishing with their eyy... if its done right. Fishing skill % must influence the chanche of success, It must take just as long as fifhing does for normal people.
And once your start recoding the fishing, keep in mind also all the other races and their special abilities that could also be used for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

artic wrote:
Whats the race that can combine their hands into a single claw?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 23:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

tanstai wrote:

There would also then have to be some degree of skill involved. Picking up a shotgun, and shooting it at close range you'll hit most anything. Pickup a rifle, and try and hit something at a thousand yards, with small margin of error.
Tanstai

Umm... Not to brag or anything, but I have hit something at a thousand yards. Mind, there was no wind, it was on a level 'field' and the recoil was enough that I only fired once.(I had a bruise for about 2 weeks)

Getting back to the topic of the discussion, why couldnt a psionic be selective in what they picked up? They are at least margianally selective in selecting their targets, otherwise their powers would only be good if you wanted to flatten the surrouding countryside...

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